Tuesday, May 16, 2006

Fighting Childish




I feel too young too reminisce, too ashamed for nostalgia, but there are things I will always remember. Like the hours spent in the basement carrying rolled up socks covered in electrical tape, shifting more times than a Rubix Cube to dodge invisible defenders. The water bottles always frozen by my mother the night before games, and the grass-stained knee-socks she used to get whiter than all those glasses of milk I used to come home to. The pass patterns I’ve been running since my father scripted them on his palm in the backyard years ago. The afternoons I played by myself as the receiver, the quarterback, and as John Facenda, bellowing my name in Super Bowl XXXXVII with that voice that could move boulders. The Triple Option Flea Flicker I invented on the back of my notebook when I decided I didn’t care too much for quadratic equations. The hours wondering what it felt like to drag down a brontosaurus of a fullback in the flat on third and three, even when splinters still gave me nightmares. I remember the only season of Pop Warner I ever played, and the fog that was never as strong as the lights.

I remember most of what happened when I first I decided Michigan was the greatest football team there ever was, back when teams only wore the right colors and the wrong colors, but I remember it because it was the same time I realized that if you liked Michigan, it was a good idea to hate Notre Dame just as much. I am older now, my love for women much closer to my love for Michigan than it was back then, and I have found that no one needs to be told to hate Notre Dame. There are plenty of reasons you should hate them on your own.

I hate humidity, women’s basketball, girls who fake it, and waking up before noon, but I’d endure a lifetime of them all if it meant never listening to another Notre Dame fan lecture me on collegiate athletics. I’m really not trying to pick a fight. The fact is, if you’re a Notre Dame fan, and you can’t get into an R-rated movie yet, chances are you’ve never seen them win a bowl game. And that’s much better than anything I could ever come up with on my own. This is just in response to something harmless written by Blue-Gray Sky – the third component of the EDSBS/MGoBlog holy trinity of college football blogs – with regards to Notre Dame joining the Big 10, and the discussion that followed. The discussion went bad – as they always seem to do when Notre Dame gets involved – inevitably turning into yet another carousel of Notre Dame rhetoric, its fans riding in circles atop their fatigued horses of whimsy, their famous axioms held in hand like swords: Notre Dame is above college football, they just participate for our benefit.

“Andy” writes in the comments section, “I can see Michigan dropping us, mainly out of fear,” which is both condescending and misinformed, and exactly the type of irreverent inanity that makes almost any cooperative discussion impossible. I suppose he’s basing that on recent events, you know, Notre Dame having won two in a row, three of the last four, those kind of inconsequential samples of data in a sport that’s history spans more than a century in both schools. Michigan was 4-3-1 against Notre Dame in the nineties, taking two of the last three, and three of the last four. But of course, when we’re dealing with the intellectual titans like Andy, we as Michigan fans are to immediately cower in fear behind our 9-3s as if Notre Dame hadn’t been – in relation to program expectations – easily the biggest disappointment of the 2000s prior to Weis’s hiring. You know that awful 7-5 season Michigan just had? For Michigan, it’s the worst season it’s had since 1984. For Notre Dame? Well, those Irish fans seem to have an answer for everything; I’m sure they’ll let you know. So I guess what I want to know, then, is what Michigan has to be afraid of. Losing to an out-of-conference opponent? Losing to a rival? Losing to an opponent with a less-talented roster? Excuse me, his name is Lloyd Carr, and I’m pretty sure he’d find away to fuck things up even without Notre Dame’s help.

I don’t know too many Michigan fans that have anything to say for the past 8 years besides “let’s all go find a sand dune big enough to fit all our heads in,” but that’s due to embarrassment and dejection alone; fear would imply a lack of hope. Michigan’s wounds are always self-inflicted (we could at least admire their bravery if they had someone else to blame), its bad habits prevalent and debilitating. But they have nothing to do with being in desperate need of anyone else’s help. Michigan falls off its bike a lot, but it’s because it rides too carelessly on dangerous terrain, not because it can’t afford a bike with durable pedals and ergonomic handlebars. Michigan sells more merchandise than any other school and is annually one of the top 10 most popular teams in the country. To say Michigan needs Notre Dame, whether in the same conference or merely on the same schedule, discredits the dynasty it established more than 100 years ago.

As for now, Michigan is a third-level football program, and Notre Dame is no different. If you’re talking about prestige, both of them are in the top 5 for good, but nothing could dispute that right now the two are merely name brands on unreliable products. The difference, though, is how each views itself. Michigan’s been far more statistically relevant than Notre Dame has in the last 5 years, but the consensus is that work still needs to be done, and that last season was a disaster. Notre Dame, on the other hand, wins fewer games than it did with a coach the whole fanbase hated, yet in an instant the name has revitalized itself. To me, Michigan fans are the old drunks sitting alone in a dark corner of a bar, chins on the counter, swishing the last drops of booze around in their glass. Notre Dame fans sit in rocking chairs on wooden porches, looking for people to tell stories to of how great they used to be. Yankees fans included, I’ve never seen a team and its fans so consistently combine high expectations with the subsequent dismissal of major failures as Notre Dame. And that’s why Ohio State will always be the team we’re supposed to hate, while Notre Dame is the team we enjoy hating.

I don’t like associating with them in anything, but I’m sure it’s for different reasons than Notre Dame’s fans have. I doubt Notre Dame, everlastingly basking in its independent, no-conference-pool of elitism, wants to really be associated with anyone, because deep down all of its fans would take it as a handicapping to its supposed superiority. If the motive was strictly financial – that suckling the money melon of NBC was so vital to the program’s operation – I wouldn’t be so offended. But I don’t think that’s all there is to it. In a country where the president earns much less than the average Major League utility infielder, it would be incredibly naïve to think that power and such a defined superiority can’t, at times, have the same allure that money does. Being independent means being different, and being different means designing your own image. What kind of image would God’s team have being grouped with the likes of Indiana and Illinois, especially after it had spent so long championing itself as the face of college football? Not only that, how would Notre Dame squeeze in all those “rivalries” against Army/Navy/Air Force/Coast Guard/Boy Scout Troop 109 if Northwestern and Minnesota were clogging the schedule?

I suppose I could be stubborn and demand that Notre Dame conform, explaining how important it was for the economic equality of the sport; that they needed step down from their pedestal in creating conferential harmony. But that’s just stuff I don’t really mean. And when we all say it, we never mean it. It’s just the quickest way to crack the teeth of a team none of us like. There is always a futility in talking football with Notre Dame fans, but I can’t say I’d feel as justified hating a team that compromised. They're better the way they are, flawed and without charm. I remember a lot of things, and I'd like to remember that.

20 Comments:

Anonymous Ben said...

As usual, great stuff, Johnny. Thanks for saying it better than I could.

I always do my best to keep the domers from mounting their "fatigued horses of whimsy", but it usually ends up messy; like herding cats (see the BGS comment thread). When beaten, (most) domers have the innate ability to discard a point of contention and introduce a new flame of rhetoric. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

In any event, excellent work on an eloquent rebuttal.

7:54 AM  
Blogger Kyle King said...

No kidding, Johnny, that was beautiful, man.

10:58 AM  
Blogger Aram said...

What a beautiful post, man. Fantastic stuff.

2:28 PM  
Anonymous Brent said...

In response to your Grey's Anatomy comment over on my site, I do agree about Addison Shepard. She's the best looking one on the show, although I wonder what she looks like with her natural blonde hair. Izzy has it sometimes but not others, ditto for Meredith. I want to strangle Sandra Oh on sight. As for Dr. Torres, she's a tough call. She's definitely beautiful, which contributes partially to her success as an actress. But she's just for freaking big. Not fat, not obese, just a very large person. And quite frankly, sometimes I'm worried about O'Malley's safety when he's with her.

Next season should be interesting though. I bet Meredith and Derek get together and stay together most of next season, only to have some major event happen that will carry over into season 4.

But we'll have to watch and see.

3:18 PM  
Blogger Johnny said...

Ben, please don't sell yourself short; I read that comment section in its entirety a few times and you were the debate gold medalist. I have to commend you for keeping your patience much better than I could have. I like the point you make about introducing a new flame of rhetoric, because that’s a large part of why I have such little respect for the team and its fanbase. If you haven’t wanted to either cry or scream when your team fails, I can’t help but resent you, and I don’t see Notre Dame fans really ever displaying that negative emotion. It’s like, Notre Dame wins, they cheer; Notre Dame loses, they shrug their shoulders and life resumes. Maybe being a Michigan fan has just conditioned me to be a sort of masochist, but I don’t think a college football team should be a hobby, but rather a way of life.

Brent, I laughed when I read the line about fearing for O’Malley’s safety. My friend’s mom described Callie as “built like a middle linebacker”, which just about sums it up I guess.

1:20 AM  
Anonymous Jon said...

I just shouted out an "AMEN" to no one in particular. Direct and to the point without being too harsh or mean-spirited. Better than I ever could have said it.

I'm going to borrow a line from an email sent to Bill Simmons here: Cheering for the New York Yankees is like cheering for the house in blackjack.

That's not to say that they aren't a great franchise, but it is to say that, even when they lose, their fans shrug and tell you about the 26 rings their team has won. Having conversed with both fanbases, as Red Sox and Michigan fan, I can tell you from experience that they are the same person (except that the New York fan actually has something legit to be bragging about in recent memory).

Piles upon piles of steaming rhetoric just waiting to burst forth from their mouths with no substance and nothing much meaningful to say.

*Note: this is directed at the Irish/Yankee fans that I have met personally. If you are an Irish/Yankee fan and I've never spoken to you, this post is not meant for you. You owe no loyalty to the kinds of people I have met unless you are an equivalent fan, and then by all means, let your piles runneth over in your response.

8:38 AM  
Anonymous andrew said...

maybe it will be Notre Dame dropping Michigan from their schedule. this is just an excuse to stop playing Big Ten teams and diversify the schedule by playing the likes of Central Florida, Lousiana-Lafayette, and North Texas.

"We have enough heavyweights on the schedule," [Kevin White] said. "We need to have a schedule that's conducive to success."

Some Notre Dame fans contend the team's upcoming schedules are not as tough as previous ones. White said he is not trying to put together the nation's most difficult schedule.

"We need to schedule in a way it puts us in a position to win national championships," he said. "We could have a great football team and schedule ourselves out of a championship. You can schedule yourself in, you can schedule yourself out. The last time I checked, the most important thing here is to try to win national championships."

2:32 PM  
Anonymous Ben said...

I guess 64th was just too much to have on their plates.

http://www.fanblogs.com/ncaa/006196.php

5:58 PM  
Blogger Johnny said...

Ben, don't be foolish -- those numbers are only concrete facts. What place do they have in an inteligent discussion?

And I apologize for the lack of posts. I'll have something posted around 3 a.m., which for the sane population is called "tomorrow morning". (What do you have to say for the Reynolds situation? Offering scholarships to potential UM basketball players has become the absolute biggest fucking excercise in futility.)

7:35 PM  
Anonymous Ben said...

Johnny,

I know, I know. Concrete facts have absolutely no place in such a discussion. Eventually I'll learn my lesson.

As far as Reynolds. My God. I'm somewhat torn, though. Is it good news that we're finalists for these Top 100 players? Or is it horribly, awfully hope-crushing that we're missing so often we might as well be a blind, armless man throwing darts in the dark?

Whatever the case may be, Michigan hoops is a few years away from where we thought we might be this year.

It's almost too depressing to think about.

7:22 AM  
Anonymous Sean said...

Johnny,

Notre Dame fandom's unusually deep resentment towards Michigan comes from the documented anti-Catholicism of Fritz Crisler and Fielding Yost and their disregard of Notre Dame as an academic institution. The old guard at ND, the ones with most of the money, don't forget this and made it basically impossible to join the Big Ten, even if the school's faculty and olympic sports teams support joining. The old guard think that the Big Ten had their chance long ago when Knute Rockne went out of his way to join the Big Ten.

As for younger alums like myself, we hate Michigan less for that than the same reasons you hate us: Obnoxious alums trumpeting the academic superiority over the rest of the college football world when your team is losing, unbearably smug when they are winning.

Sean

7:35 AM  
Anonymous Ben said...

Sean,

I understand your comment was directed at Johnny, but let me help you out by letting you know that we've all had the history lesson.

The "documented" anti-Catholicism is really only documented by ND fans based on Knute Rockne's best guess as to why Yost hated him so much. And to that self-serving half truth, I submit it was because Rockne cheated by playing freshmen and ineligible men from a University that was academically inferior (at the time) to Big Ten schools.

Do you see how history can be based loosely on facts and spun to serve our own purposes?

You might have better success rolling a boulder up a mountain than convincing this crowd of your personal perspective on history.

11:40 AM  
Anonymous Sean said...

I'll take a flyer on the assertion of Yost's and Chrisler's anti-Catholicism are just Notre Dame alum ramblings. I think Murray Sperber's academic book "Shake Down the Thunder" said something backing Rockne's feelings, but my memory could be wrong.

And Michigan didn't use players for hire during their "point-a-minute" teams? It was common practice at the time (again, see Sperber's book). And cancelling a game the day before playing? Sperber, to his credit, never tried to paint the Rockne era as any golden moment in football recruiting. I look forward to re-reading the chapters on the Notre Dame-Michigan coaching interaction.

With those comments on the specifics of the Rockne-Michigan interaction said, when the KKK (very strong in both Indiana and Michigan at the time) tries to march onto your University, your sensitivity to anti-Catholicism perks up a bit.

9:20 AM  
Anonymous Jay said...

Say what you want about Notre Dame, but you'd be a total hypocrite if Michigan enjoyed an NBC contract, 11 of 12 games nationally televised, and Charlie Weis as your coach. And throw in 11 titles and 7 hiesmans, regardless of how long ago they were achieved, and you'd be the biggest hypocrite of all time if you didnt say you'd want that for your team. Oh and read Sperber's book, written by a Purdue alum. He has actual anti-catholic Fielding Yost quotes. The guy was a biggot. Also, ND fans, like Yankee fans, shrug off loses more easily because they know their teams will be competitive. They don't have to wait 40 some years between titles, like Michigan fans have and most likely will in the future.

12:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets not forget that when Notre Dame defeated Michigan for the 1st time in 1909, it was Michigan who refused to play the Irish for the next 33 years

12:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you know who won the game that your picture is from?







Notre Dame, pal. If you're going to make an argument, do it with facts (and pictures in this case) that support it.

6:53 PM  
Blogger jurasicbiggs said...

Johnny,

I am a Notre Dame alumnus and I agree with many of your comments. There is one underlying theme throughout your comments are that Lloyd has to go. I would agree. But as a Notre Dame guy, I desperately want him to stay. Stay Lloyd and continue to under achieve.

Michigan routinely signs a recruiting class allowing the team to replenish the talent they lost. I firmly believe that Michigan can and should contend for the title every year. It is lack of coaching that causes to the team to lose. My opinion is that Lloyd (and probably his staff) fails to prepare his team for Saturday and, equally important, fails to make the necessary adjustments during games.

So I say, stay Lloyd, stay.

Jurassic Biggs

8:33 AM  
Anonymous Jake said...

Hey Jurassic,

Don't you realize that Llloyd won the freaking half of a national title 9 years ago?? It's blasphemy to even suggest that Llloyd go. Man your view of things is warped. Go Puke!

9:56 AM  
Blogger Jerry said...

Hi.

There are reasons ND continues to spurn conference affiliation that have not seen mentioned here, so I will include them in the discussion.

1) 10 of the 11 schools in the conference are very large (25,000+ undergrads at least), public, and secular. Northwestern is small and private, but also secular.

ND is small, private, and Catholic. As such, it struggles mightily with issues arising from trying to balance being a CATHOLIC university loyal to Church magisterium with being a Catholic UNIVERSITY which must be engaged with the secular culture of academia and society. How long after ND joined the Big 10 would the other conference schools begin pressuring ND to going a more secular route (on issues such as the presence of an active homosexual group or pro-abortion group on campus, to touch the tip of the iceburg...)? Given the very forceful and rather insulting letters-to-the-editor that poured into the campus newspaper's office from faculty members of Big 10 schools during the rather long and protracted "homosexual group" controversy (from 1995 through into the 2000's; the letter from the faculty member of Minnesota was particularly memorable) accusing the school of bigotry and homophobia for adhering to Church teaching, again, how long would it take? 5 minutes? 10? This is something ND wants no part of....

2) The matter of identity. ND football has always been, and indeed built its reputation by being, an independent. The students and alumni of ND relish this independence. ND fans and alumni are accused of thinking they are better than everyone else, and for the most part this is an accurate accusation. It would also be accurate that the vast number of fans and alumni who have a strong interest in college athletics think that their school and team is better than everyone else: reference the "...when I first I decided Michigan was the greatest football team there ever was..." comment in the above article.

For 99.9% of ND fans and alumni, joining a conference in football would mean abandoning an important part of its identity, something they are loathe to do.

3) For the life of me, I cannot figure out why ND should join a conference of institutions whose fans, alumni, and even some faculty hold ND in such low regard. In perusing the blogs and message boards of Big 10 schools fans and alumni, not to mention my encounters with Michigan, MSU, Purdue, and Ohio State fans and alumni, one encounters an almost pathological level of animosity towards the school: ND's football team wouldn't finish in the top 7 of the Big 10, ND's academics are on the level of Bob's Auto Technician College And Grill, ND's co-eds are ugly, etc., etc., etc. If ND's so beneath you, why do you want them in your conference? And why on earth, given how much animosity you have toward ND, should they want to join?

Thank you for your patience in reading my entry. You all may now go back to hurling insults at each other.

3:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jerry,

So religion only plays a part in football, but for ALL other sports joining the heathens is okay?? Didn't you get your pro-abortion news letter from St. John's yet??

...and you are right. Don't join a conference. Look at how Penn State fell apart and lost their alumni support and fan base!

Wake up and smell the MONEY!!

10:20 PM  

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